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I need to (re)activate a fully licensed Windows XP64 installation. But, the MS activation server seems to be off-line. My company has some expensive special purpose HW with custom drivers that are critical for a long term project. There are no drivers available for any other version of Windows, and the company that wrote the current ones is no longer in business. The system is never used for browsing or such, so Internet security is not an issue. I just replaced a broken HD, cloned the contents from a recent backup to a new HD, replaced a dying CD reader, and it seems I tripped MS's activation threshold.
Yes, I could go with the XP emulation offered under Win7. But, if I can just get the current WinXP re-activated quickly, that would be better. What I had, worked just fine for many years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So, the question is 'I know MS no longer supports XP re patches, updates, & such.
But, do they provide a way to re-activate existing installations?' I'm pretty sure you can still activate it, but they might have taken the servers offline. Just do phone activation.
No that makes no sense. Why would I (M$) stop funding automated server authentication that has a much smaller cost than the cost of multiple call center buildings, electricity / upkeep of those buildings, desks, furniture, security, computer systems, then the users of those system (call center person your saying to call), management and associated HR costs for having those employees, the facilities and computer people to keep all that running, all to take phone calls that automated systems regionalized in virtual server farms would be ALOT LESS COSTS? And don't say 'oh they already have those and they just do the XP too', because you just double to triple your workers 'calls' and now they can NOT answer for the products they do support. Do you really want to be on hold a hour and a half to get a answer why Office365 isn't saving a document?
Or how your hardware partner's new HP Tablet needs a restore and how to do that in Windows 8 for great grandma in Connecticut? See if they kill one, they kill both.
You would call in, they would politely inform you that they do not provide support for depreciated software (BTW you would get the same answer right now on your Windows 7 question too, because as a CONSUMER - aka not Corporate account - Windows 7 is no longer supported) and would offer the opportunity to upgrade to currently supported Operating System. I have never had to 'activate' my XP installs.
I don't even have the network cable plugged in while installing. I enter the activation code and bingo, it works. I do have corporate serial though that works for 8 pcs. Does the corporation allow you to do that, otherwise your speaking about a PIRATED edition, and Tomshardware does not support or allow any such discussions about that. As soon as you plug in your network connection it 'activates' or else you wouldn't be receiving updates, it would block you after 30 days. Additionally the rules about XP apply to Corp edition too. Currently I am quite aware each computer costs a additional $200 this year with XP on it, and then will be charged a additional $400 next year from Microsoft for Corp Accounts, and I any 'fixes' has to be done as a Engineering purchased project, which starts at $15K to INITIATE the process, not even to actually do the work / provide a solution, that is a additional cost.
So financially it isn't beneficial to any company out there (costs exceed that of a replacement system). I need to (re)activate a fully licensed Windows XP64 installation. But, the MS activation server seems to be off-line. And Windows 7 for CONSUMERS is no longer supported.
That means if Mr./Mrs. Consumer calls M$ about a problem they will be told the same thing I just said. We do not support depreciated software, but I can offer you the opportunity to upgrade to our currently supported OS.
If you try and 'lie' that your a CORP, you can't, is a totally different set of numbers, offices, and locations, AND as part of the BUSINESS LICENSE CONTRACT you would need to provide you CORP account so they can charge for the services rendered. Which if your lying you do NOT have a CORP account that you are a registered authorized participant on and well back to the Consumers line you go. I need to (re)activate a fully licensed Windows XP64 installation. But, the MS activation server seems to be off-line. My company has some expensive special purpose HW with custom drivers that are critical for a long term project. There are no drivers available for any other version of Windows, and the company that wrote the current ones is no longer in business. The system is never used for browsing or such, so Internet security is not an issue.
I just replaced a broken HD, cloned the contents from a recent backup to a new HD, replaced a dying CD reader, and it seems I tripped MS's activation threshold. Yes, I could go with the XP emulation offered under Win7. But, if I can just get the current WinXP re-activated quickly, that would be better. What I had, worked just fine for many years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
So, the question is 'I know MS no longer supports XP re patches, updates, & such. But, do they provide a way to re-activate existing installations?' Honestly OP; BLAH BLAH heard it before excuses. A Manager / Decision Maker / Stakeholder has to be told the TO BAD SORRY answer.
You put off what you were supposed to invest in (can your company vehicles drives 100,000miles on the same tires? What happens when they reach 200,000 miles you keep using them? NO YOU REPLACE THEM) and you didn't and now you will have to pay 2-10x what you could have paid before. You need to suck it up, hire a Business Systems Analyst to review this 'special purpose expensive HW' and find your solutions you will HAVE to suck up and buy into. Honestly the BSA will give you the same answers, if this 'critical' system shuts down tomorrow and there is no way to fix it, what impact does that have to your bottom line, is that less then replacing it?
If not then as a COST SAVINGS it is time to retire the risk. Secondly your totally fooling yourself 'The system is never used for browsing or such, so Internet security is not an issue.' You apparently never had a RISK ASSESSMENT done, because ANY Analyst would have provided to you Suxnet as a shining example of a HW that is expensive special purpose, was compromised and it never was used for browsing and such.
In fact the hardware was under strict MILITARY control, with extreme level security and severe restricted access. Nuclear Centrifuge hardware. Yet it was infected and taken down, so how LESS secure is yours in comparison to some simple OOPS by a worker?
And that addage ' If it ain't broke, don't fix it.' Doesn't apply to depreciation items. As I noted a company vehicle depreciates overtime, and so does the bathroom piping in your building, the electrical wiring to a segment of your building now being repurposed for other uses, and so on.
You and your Management need a wake up call to understand computers are as much a INFRASTRUCTURE item as the toilet, the parking lot, the machinists tools, electrical wiring, etc. And such needs to be CALCULATED in for depreciation, which XP is PAST THAT TIME PERIOD. Think now your at 300,000 miles on your delivery truck and you keep saying If it ain't broke, don't fix it, well in comparison to your new HD, replaced a dying CD reader, you just replaced the Engine and Transmission in it again, and now you realize it is a LEAD Engine you still been using when LEAD gas is no longer sold, how will you get around it?
See this is where RIsk and Cost-Benefit analysis comes in, and someone (MANAGEMENT) needs to step up and make a well educated decision on the RISKS, COSTS and BENEFITS. You are at a point now you either have a non-PRODUCTIVE piece of equipment or you have to deal with addressing the problem (it has to be replaced). Oh BTW, do note: 4K drives are the norm now, and they require a UEFI motherboard to function, and only sold in the current SATA III format, which XP has no way of understanding nor the BIOS. So you can't just 'reformat it' it is embedded at the HW layer, and if your drives and such go down again, that also is a HW issue you can't get around (no one selling old drives). I have never had to 'activate' my XP installs. I don't even have the network cable plugged in while installing.
I enter the activation code and bingo, it works. I do have corporate serial though that works for 8 pcs. Does the corporation allow you to do that, otherwise your speaking about a PIRATED edition, and Tomshardware does not support or allow any such discussions about that. As soon as you plug in your network connection it 'activates' or else you wouldn't be receiving updates, it would block you after 30 days. Additionally the rules about XP apply to Corp edition too. Currently I am quite aware each computer costs a additional $200 this year with XP on it, and then will be charged a additional $400 next year from Microsoft for Corp Accounts, and I any 'fixes' has to be done as a Engineering purchased project, which starts at $15K to INITIATE the process, not even to actually do the work / provide a solution, that is a additional cost. So financially it isn't beneficial to any company out there (costs exceed that of a replacement system).
We have a volume license key. It's most definitely NOT pirated. Also, I am aware of the forum rules, but thanks for reiterating them. Just re-installed a machine 3 weeks ago.
No issues at all. I have never had to 'activate' my XP installs.
I don't even have the network cable plugged in while installing. I enter the activation code and bingo, it works.
I do have corporate serial though that works for 8 pcs. Does the corporation allow you to do that, otherwise your speaking about a PIRATED edition, and Tomshardware does not support or allow any such discussions about that. As soon as you plug in your network connection it 'activates' or else you wouldn't be receiving updates, it would block you after 30 days. Additionally the rules about XP apply to Corp edition too.
Currently I am quite aware each computer costs a additional $200 this year with XP on it, and then will be charged a additional $400 next year from Microsoft for Corp Accounts, and I any 'fixes' has to be done as a Engineering purchased project, which starts at $15K to INITIATE the process, not even to actually do the work / provide a solution, that is a additional cost. So financially it isn't beneficial to any company out there (costs exceed that of a replacement system). We have a volume license key. It's most definitely NOT pirated. Also, I am aware of the forum rules, but thanks for reiterating them. Just re-installed a machine 3 weeks ago. No issues at all.
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If you're using that VLK in your corporate environment, no worries. If you're using it at home.that all depends on your licensing agreement with MS. But we're off track here with the OP's issue.
Wcrouch.have you gotten this fixed? Tom, If you called about a PROBLEM, yes.
You seem to be confusing support with activation. They WILL activate it. You are also wrong about XP VLK's. They don't activate. They will do a WGA check if you try to update. Even if it fails, you still have access to security updates and service packs.
You didn't READ what I stated. I said 'You would call in, they would politely inform you that they do not provide support for depreciated software (BTW you would get the same answer right now on your Windows 7 question too, because as a CONSUMER - aka not Corporate account - Windows 7 is no longer supported) and would offer the opportunity to upgrade to currently supported Operating System.' SO calling in for ACTIVATION or a Windows 7 question (aka SUPPORT) would both yield the same answer (note I made the distinction for a CONSUMER edition as the OP never stated what licensing they are using but appears COTS solution not Corp) 2) So I listened to what you said and decided to test your theory. Click download SP3, gets you We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. So, maybe Technet might still have it, but seems your incorrect on that as well. Just as you can't get depreciated updates for Windows 2000, 98, NT4, etc. So XP has gone to the grave, Windows 7 is now buried, and the shovel being used to seal both 7 & 8's fate is Windows 10 (One OS to RULE THEM ALL!
SO calling in for ACTIVATION or a Windows 7 question (aka SUPPORT) would both yield the same answer (note I made the distinction for a CONSUMER edition as the OP never stated what licensing they are using but appears COTS solution not Corp) bzzzzzzz Wrong. Activation and help desk support are two completely different things.
Windows 7 is still being sold. It is on extended support (security fixes) for the rest of this decade. If I cranked up a new Win 7 install today, it would activate just fine. Either online, or via the phone robot.
I also have a fully legitimate “outdated” Win XP software package for personal use (not corporate). I’m a computer hobbyist who occasionally builds or rebuilds new or vintage desktop systems “from scratch”. When I attempt to activate my Win XP by phone the recorded robot informs me that Microsoft will Activate XP Software: “when customers transfer the full package product license to a new system.” By nature spoken legalese sets off my caution buttons, so I am concerned by what this phrase may mean. Is this simply a reference to a new hardware configuration?
Or am I “transferring my full package product license' to any other legal entity?? I'm sorry if I sound paranoid; but Micro$oft has always affected me that way. I also have a fully legitimate “outdated” Win XP software package for personal use (not corporate). I’m a computer hobbyist who occasionally builds or rebuilds new or vintage desktop systems “from scratch”. When I attempt to activate my Win XP by phone the recorded robot informs me that Microsoft will Activate XP Software: “when customers transfer the full package product license to a new system.” By nature spoken legalese sets off my caution buttons, so I am concerned by what this phrase may mean. Is this simply a reference to a new hardware configuration? Or am I “transferring my full package product license' to any other legal entity??
I'm sorry if I sound paranoid; but Micro$oft has always affected me that way. Yes, that would seem to be 'a new hardware configuration '. This might help: Today (May 5th 2016), I did fresh installs of XP SP3 on 4 used laptops I recently acquired.
Two activated first time over the Internet, and two didn't. After much head scratching, I suddenly realised that the two that had activated had good CMOS batteries, and the two that didn't had dead CMOS batteries. Consequently, two of them had the correct date and time, and two didn't.
I then reset the date and time on the two with dead CMOS batteries, and lo and behold, they then activated over the Internet perfectly. As to why the correct date and time seem to be required for activation, I have no idea. I hope this helps. Regards Chris H.
I need to (re)activate a fully licensed Windows XP64 installation. But, the MS activation server seems to be off-line. My company has some expensive special purpose HW with custom drivers that are critical for a long term project.
There are no drivers available for any other version of Windows, and the company that wrote the current ones is no longer in business. The system is never used for browsing or such, so Internet security is not an issue. I just replaced a broken HD, cloned the contents from a recent backup to a new HD, replaced a dying CD reader, and it seems I tripped MS's activation threshold. Yes, I could go with the XP emulation offered under Win7. But, if I can just get the current WinXP re-activated quickly, that would be better. What I had, worked just fine for many years.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So, the question is 'I know MS no longer supports XP re patches, updates, & such. But, do they provide a way to re-activate existing installations?'
As to why the correct date and time seem to be required for activation, I have no idea. I hope this helps. Regards Chris H. Timing is the basic computer function that has to be accurate in order to ensure communication between A to B is valid (used as offset calculation value).
It also signifies and validates the timezone, which is the locational address you physically are, the network you connect to, the Internet locations your network claims to be coming from, and then validate through the 'cloud' to MS servers. So if your in Indiana, your 'time' shouldn't be set for India, which would invalidate your edition of U.S. Windows your trying to certify.
As well as the calculations done in the 'checks' to validate I sent 'this is my name' value to MS server and the 'time' it takes and so on it should have a value of 'this is my name' + takes 1.234ms from Indiana, where as if validating from India, it would take 3.567ms wait this doesn't calculate right. Just so you know, running XP is totally incompatible with all current / recent editions of software out there (Games, Office Suites, drivers, etc.) and there are no 'drivers' to fix many common issues (Why can't I get this USB Wifi to work? So it isn't practical to use, just as it isn't practical to use Windows 2000, or 98.
I just setup a wireless connection. When i setup the device to WEP security, Windows XP machine able to authenticate and get a IP from the DHCP. But when i setup the device to WPA or WPA2 security, Windows XP machine seems authenticate but unable to get a IP from the DHCP. I tried to setup the Wireless to a static IP but it do not able to connect to the network as well. I am wondering is there any method i can troubleshoot. Bare in mind, this is SP3 and it should support WPA1/2 I am current setup as WEP so i can get online but i would like to get into WPA2 soon before the network has compromised.
If it seems to authenticate but doesn't and gives you a 169 IP address then you are not connecting. I think that you are not setup correctly on the router. You said that you setup WPA2 on the device I am assuming that you are talkiing about your router. If so then you are either not using the correct cipher (TKIP, AES, etc) on XP or you did not set the authentication code correctly. Andrew is correct as well. You need to know what you are using on the laptop end.
If you are using an incompatable card then you will not be able to authenticate to WPA networks. My advice, check all of your settings on the router and make it as simple as possible.
Set XP to match and get connected. Make smaller changes and eventually get up to a high cipher level with WPA2 protection. Be sure to rotate the keys as well. Without knowing more about your hardware and your option screens we really can't do much more than just give you a few pieces of advice. In the router wireless mode: AP wireless network mode: mixed wireless channel:6 SSID broadcast: enable sensitivity Range: 2000 network configuration: bridged security mode:WEP Default transmit key:1 encryption: 128bit the above settings works when i am using WEP i change the following security mode: WPA Personal WPA algorithms: AES WPA Sharedkey: xxx in XP, i use WPA-PSK AES, network key: xxx but it is not working. I am tend to think about the hardware issue.
But i donno whether it is driver issue or not. WPA2 doesn't work on XP unless you download it from Microsoft. At least that's the case in SP2 and may also be in SP3. So, download and install it.
The card's software may or may not support it so you may have to stick with the Windows interface software. That's a choice you make. If the router has MAC address filtering turned on then you can't interoperate either. If the radios 'connect' then the System Tray icon may go green. That is misleading and worse than meaningless.
You can have a 'green' connection while not having met the security requirements. You have to satisfy the security requirements and pass the MAC address filter BEFORE you get an IP address. There are two styles of interface these days: - In one, it will explicitly ask you to select the security mode - WEP, WPA, WPA2 - In the other it will simply ask you for the passphrase.
Either way, if you have not installed WPA2 by downloading it from Microsoft and installing it, then you.don't have. WPA2 support. I urge you to do this if you want to use WPA2.
Then, it may be that the wireless interface in the computer has to support it as well. Pay attention to this. As far as WPA (not WPA2) not working, well that sounds like some difference in settings between the router and the computer in the wireless security. Unfortunately, it seems that every device refers to things differently. AES, TKIP, AES+TKIP, etc. So, you might have to experiment in getting them to 'agree'. Also, there are a large number of WPA choices.
I stick with WPA-PSK or WPA Personal among the terms to choose. Other modes no doubt require other considerations that I'm not able to advise on.
Why tempt fate when you have something what works? I ask myself. So that's the mode I suggest for you. Again, it's a matter of matching what the router calls it with what the computer software calls it.
Then, just for completeness, the passphrase has to be very carefully entered to make sure they match. If you're going to use WPA/2 then I would encourage you to get a!!!LONG!!!
Passphrase that you copy and paste into the devices. There are websites that will generate a random string of characters for that purpose. This gets away from having to remember or type in the passphrase, is virtually impossible to crack. Just save the passphrase in a text file or on a thumb drive or CD. It's really hard to make a typo doing it this way. Okay, I have changed to WPA-TKIP passphrase: install the latest intel ProSet/Wireless Wifi Connection Utility still have the same issue.
When i am using intel proset/wireless utility, it mention as below Authentication process to connec to the network has not been started Authentication process to connec to the network has been started then switch back to the first one again. Looks like is an authentication problem. I have used a HTC diamond to do so, it still have the same problem. Bear in mind, if i am using WEP, it works beautifully. But WEP can be cracked within minutes where i want to use WPA at least (forget about WPA2 for the moment) I tried to use static IP, gateway as well but it do not do anything (should be, as the authentication process do not completed.
I guess) I am running out of idea again. If you are confident with the static IP settings then I'd stick with them just to eliminate any DHCP problems with DD-WRT for now. I would uninstall the wireless interface, reboot and let Windows reinstall it.
Now, some WPA interfaces will accept an ASCII string / passphrase and some want to get a hex string and some will allow either one. I think maybe DD-WRT presents that kind of issue. So, just make sure that you're putting the.same. ASCII passphrase OR EQUIVALENT IN HEX in the devices - depending on the setting entry requirements you are presented with.
First, I need to thankyou for everyone spending thier time with me. I found out the issues was XP SP3 with WPA with Intel wireless. All the research i come out is related back to these.
What i have done is I install a paid wireless client Odyssey Access Client Manager and it authenticated without problem. (it support WPA2 as well) Clearly, Something wrong with Windows XP SP3 with WPA1/2 with Intel Wireless Device that I have. I will Abandon this question until intel/windows have fixed this issue. Before you abandon this thread which you should not do, PLEASE ask that it be deleted or award someone some points for their time and assistance, try this: background. I have had some weird stuff appear in my life and one was a wireless NIC and a wireless AP and of course it wanted an X length pass phrase. I would set both pass phrases identically, checked and double checked and no link up. So, I manually converted a string to hex and entered all hex characters into both the NIC WPA setup and the AP/Router.
SO for an initial try, set your pass phrase temporarily to something like: 019e6b3a4a6f7b All hexidecimal numbers. Let us know if it changed things. May not per your research but might be worth a try at this late stage.
John Again, please do not allow your Q to sit here. Request attention, request it be closed etc.
As i said, i am using xp sp3, and i am setup using wpa1 (not 2) and i cannot get it working via windows native wireless manager or intel/proset manager. I have conducted my own research and found that it is xp sp3 issue with intel software (very specific). What I have done is I had installed a 3rd party wireless client Odyssey Access Client Manager and get it working. Regardless whether i download wpa2 or not, it works.
So i am quite sure i won't need to download wpa2 from microsoft (and it only applies to sp2 not sp3).